April 18, 2016 at 4:45 am #15005
It seems like it took a long time to learn how to turn the pegs just enough to tune the strings. Steel strings like the E string are easier with a fine tuner, but are not recommended with synthetic core strings. Then, it took a while to learn how to turn the pegs while bowing at the same time. Other times, I had to turn the peg and push it in at the same time or else the peg would slip out of tune. Phew! Does anybody else have the same problem?April 18, 2016 at 2:36 pm #15016
Yes !! Finally someone else who has this problem. I’ve asked a classical teacher and the violin shop but did not get an answer.
I’ve never learned. I just hold the violin in my lap and pluck the string with my thumb til I get close and then use the fine tuner.
I’ve never figured out how violinists tune with left hand on the peg while bowing without the peg slipping. It’s always been a mystery to me.April 19, 2016 at 3:37 pm #15063
Keep your violin by a humidifier especially in the winter. The wood will dry out and make tuning difficult to hold.April 23, 2016 at 6:31 am #15282
@jmcculley: I learned by watching how others tune while bowing. First tune the A, then A and D, then D and G, and last E. I hold the violin with my chin and shoulder (hands-free) and put the scroll between my 1st and 2nd fingers and hold the peg with my thumb and 2nd finger. The thumb is one one edge and the 2nd finger is on the opposite side and play the A as I loosen the peg about a half-step lower (about 1/4 inch) Next I play the A string as I tighten the peg a little bit until it is in tune. The thumb presses on one edge to loosen and pushes on the opposite edge to tighten. Push the peg into the peg box a little so it will stay in tune and not slip out. Your 1st finger will push on the scroll and your thumb and 2nd fingers will push in the opposite direction. I might have to go lose and tight a couple of times until I hit the pitch.
Next, play the D and A together. Grasp the D peg between the thumb and 1st finger again, but the peg is on the first knuckle of the 1st finger now. The 3rd and 4th fingers will press on the scroll on the opposite side. The left edge of the thumb is on the opposite side of the peg from the 1st finger. Loosen the peg the same as the A string and tighten it while pushing it into the peg box a little so it will hold a tune and not slip out. Your 3rd and 4th fingers will steady the scroll as your thumb and 1st fingers push the peg in. Move your thumb and 1st fingers so they push on opposite edges of the peg.
Next, I grasp the G string peg with my thumb and first finger. The scroll is between my 3rd and 4th fingers. For the G string, I grasp the peg with the tips of the thumb and 1st finger. The thumb pushes on one edge of the peg and the 1st finger pushes on the opposite edge of the peg and loosens it about a half step lower (about 1/4 inch). I play the G and D together to get the pitch right. You don’t want to touch the other pegs, so move your hands and fingers carefully around the pegs and scroll box.
Lastly, the E might be adjusted with the fine tuner. If you don’t have one, or if it slipped out of tune, the 2nd finger lies flat against the peg, the first finger presses on the opposite side of the scroll and the thumb switches from one edge to the other to tighten and loosen the peg.
Some pegs are easier to turn based on the direction they’re faced. After a while, I got comfortable re-positioning my hand and fingers to tune while bowing but it takes time and practice. Good luck!April 24, 2016 at 3:01 pm #15320
It took me a year to learn how to tune by ear, it was easier for me to learn how to tune because 4 years prior to learning, I was dependent of the tuner.June 28, 2016 at 11:48 pm #15963
I am struggling with this same issue. First one had four fine tuners and even though I love the Damiano I bought here, holy cow. Tuning takes longer than my practice time. Hopefully I will figure it out some day, along with a relaxed right wrist, but I’m not betting on it.June 29, 2016 at 6:11 am #15989
It took me about 2 months to learn to tune the violin on my own and I would insist on the teacher letting me tune my own violin in lessons but allowed him to help me (I was 10 and a pretty do it yourself kind of kid). To tune the violin and bow at the same time, it took a bit longer. I don’t remember exactly how long but I could do it by the end of the year. I couldn’t tune it with the pegs in this way until I got a new violin because it was a terrible violin. I actually hurt my wrist once trying to get one of the pegs to turn.
Usually when you see people tuning with the pegs, they are fitted properly to the violin.
July 7, 2016 at 6:20 pm #16395
- This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by Musiciater.
My first violins had fine tuners on each string- I was terrified to use the pegs because afraid the strings would pop- It took me maybe a year to learn to do it myself with the tuner- now my new Damiano has only one fine tuned and that is in the E string so have to use the pegs- have finally gotten to where I can tune it myself. Now I want to learn to be able to hear the correct note without the tunerJuly 8, 2016 at 2:53 am #16413
Aproximately two to three months listening almost daily to fifths intervals
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